The Mavericks are a young group. They have Derek Lively, you think about. You think about Luke Adonchis, one of the up and coming running stars, and how much he needs mentorship because he’s never been to the NBA finals. But you also gotta realize how much Kyrie had to grow to get to this point. And some people say that he needed that tenure with LeBron James to do that, and some people say he needed that tenure in Brooklyn.
to deal with that because you got to see him go through adversity. He lost his grandfather. He lost Kobe Bryant in that stint. And you got to see him have to reevaluate who he was as a person. And I wrote about that for cleveland .com today and talked about how much the Cavs fandom should want to cheer on or root for Kyrie Irving because of what he’s gone through as a player and also what he meant to the city of Cleveland. And he’s not done nothing but show love.
to Cleveland since he’s left. So I think the next po – well, later on, later on.
Chris Fedor (08:41.102)
Well, well. Not initially. Initially on his way out.
Ethan Sands (08:50.488)
Yeah, yeah, definitely later on. Later on. And more recently, obviously. There you go.
Chris Fedor (08:53.134)
Yeah. Yeah. Recently is what you’re going for. Cause initially there was bad blood and he said, you know, Boston was a real sports town, unlike Cleveland. So yeah, there, there were some things that, that he said that obviously he regrets to this point, but you’re right. Recently he has talked about, growing up as a kid, like as a member of the Cavs, some of the great times that he had as a member of the Cavs.
A lot of the things that he learned as a member of the Cavs and thinking back fondly on those years with the Cavs. Those are reformative years for Kyrie, not just Kyrie the basketball player, but Kyrie the person as well.
Ethan Sands (09:35.096)
Yeah, and I mean, that’s really where my article went today was more the human aspect of it rather than the person. But the human aspect of it is you, because he wanted to get and went and got the attention and the counseling that he needed, you now continue to get to see one of the best ball handlers and one of the best finishers in the game. But the next part of that goes back to LeBron James, who the Cavs know and love very well. And he has a podcast.
Chris Fedor (09:50.734)
Mm.
Ethan Sands (10:05.048)
with JJ Reddick, who we alluded to earlier on in the podcast. And try saying that three times fast. JJ is apparently, reports are saying that JJ Reddick is now the front runner for the head coaching job with the Lakers, which one goes into the coaching search for the Cavs. I know we had never talked about JJ really being a true option for the Cavs, but it was up in the air.
But now knowing that he is the front runner for the Lakers job, you never know what could have gone on behind the scenes. But it’s very ironic that he’s got a podcast with LeBron James and how that dynamic could pan out. What do you think about that whole thing?
Chris Fedor (10:53.39)
Well, so from the very beginning of the Cavs coaching search, I mentioned without actually saying the person, because I didn’t think that it was necessary to say the person. I mentioned that there was at least one candidate that if he had his choice, he was going to pick the Lakers over the Cavs. And it was JJ. JJ would not theoretically turn down an opportunity to coach the Los Angeles Lakers.
that historic franchise with LeBron James for an opportunity to coach the Cavs. It just wasn’t going to happen. So I always felt like he wasn’t as realistic of a target for the Cavs as some of these other guys. But there’s a layer to this, Ethan, that affects the Cavs here. If you think back to the last couple of coaching searches that the Cavs have had, they went with David Blatt instead of Ty Lue. But…
They opened up the checkbook to make sure that Ty Lue was going to be on the staff of David Blatt as basically the lead assistant coach. He wasn’t paid like a head coach, but he was paid handsomely to be an assistant coach. And then after that, the Cavs went with John P. Line. That was a disaster. We don’t have to rehash that. But the runner up in that search was J .B. Biggerstaff.
And the Cavs made sure that they brought JB on that staff so it could be a reliable, stable NBA lifer to kind of help John B -line learn how to deal with day -to -day stuff in the NBA, to be his right -hand man, to teach him certain things that he didn’t know that he couldn’t have known because he wasn’t in the NBA. He didn’t have that experience. So.
I was getting the impression as this coaching search for the Cavs was going on and on and on that some of these guys that they are interviewing Ethan, like, yes, it’s for the head coaching job, but in the back of the mind of Kobe Altman and general manager Mike Ganzee and owner Dan Gilbert and the other decision makers within the organization in the back of their mind was this idea of, okay,
Chris Fedor (13:10.894)
If we get whoever it is as head coach, whoever it is we like the most as head coach, let’s keep whatever guy in mind to be the lead assistant. The Lakers, it seems like they’re doing the same thing. And I think part of the reason why they had such an extensive search is because they understand that if they’re going to go the route of JJ Reddick, he’s never been a coach at any level before.
He’s a first time coach in the NBA in Los Angeles. Just add that pressure and that expectation onto it on a team that is going to have championship aspirations because of LeBron James and Anthony Davis together. And because of a title window that is not closed completely, but that window is starting to close more and more and more each year. So you got to capitalize on the last couple of years of LeBron in the NBA.
So because like that seems to be the direction that they’re going, you know, the Lakers are going to try and find an experienced, smart, respected lead assistant coach for JJ. And there is conversation around the league that if JJ does indeed get this Lakers job, like it appears he’s going to, that he’s going to try and take James Borrego with him or one of those other guys that
the Lakers have interviewed during this process. And that could affect the Cavs. And it’s not to say that, you know, if you’re James Borrego and you have an opportunity to be the head coach of the Cavs, if that’s the direction that Cleveland ultimately goes, you’re not gonna turn that down to be an assistant to JJ. But, you know, if James Borrego isn’t the direction that the Cavs go, then he has the choice of, do I be?
Do I become the lead assistant for JJ Reddick in Los Angeles? Or do I become the lead assistant potentially for whoever it is in Cleveland? Or do I go back to New Orleans or whatever the case may be? And the same thing goes with some of these other candidates that the Cavs are looking at. So I do think that there is some level of interest when it comes to the Cavs coaching search.
Chris Fedor (15:32.814)
in what the Lakers ultimately end up doing. Because I do think that the Cavs have it in their mind to open up the checkbook once again to bring in a highly paid assistant coach, whoever it is that finishes runner up in this coaching search. But that guy, you know, if the Lakers opening is there, the assistant to JJ is there, then it becomes a more complicated discussion.
Ethan Sands (16:00.888)
And speaking of the Cavs coaching search, there was another person named assistant coach that got the Cavs got permission to interview today. That was the Denver Nuggets assistant, David Adelman as one of the next names. And he is someone who stepped in for Chris Finch during the playoffs when Chris Finch went down with an injury of his own. And it was just showing that, I mean, you have to step up into a brand new role.
randomly, basically tossed into the fire. And it’s like trial by fire is really sometimes the only way to learn, especially in a playoff scenario. It’s sometimes the best way that people can learn on the fly. And like you’re saying, they’re for the players and the coaches that could be going different places, but especially for this coaching search, you think about having.
somebody by your side that’s gone through the mud, gone through the fire, gone through those things. And you think about Chris Quinn and you think about other guys who have sat on the sidelines for championship runs and how those guys could impact guys like JJ Reddick who haven’t gotten the opportunity to coach at any level. Or you think about how the Cavs could double up on one of these coaches and have them still be in an assistant role, be like, hey, we’re gonna throw you a couple extra dollars because if he can’t get the job done, you up next. So.
Chris Fedor (17:03.406)
Mm -hmm.
Ethan Sands (17:25.016)
It’s really the thought process of one, that head coaching job for this next decision is big, one, for Kobe Altman, we’ve talked about that, added in abundance, two, it’s also big for whoever is in the assistant role, depending on what the Cavs end up doing, because you never know how quickly you might have to jump into that role. But, it’s…
Chris Fedor (17:49.262)
Right. And that’s what it is Ethan. It’s not just the head coach when it comes to this Cavs coaching search, right? It’s potentially a whole new staff and you know, the staff matters greatly. J .B. Bickerstaff obviously a couple of years ago, he brought in Greg Buckner because that was somebody that he trusted. He wanted him to be his right -hand man. He was able to bring in JJ Outlaw. He obviously identified Luke Walton.
and brought him in, Sidney Lowe, same kind of thing. If you look at the NBA finals right now, the Boston coaching staff is stacked. Joe Mazzullo is a young head coach, but he’s got Sam Kassell with him, right? He’s got Charles Lee with him, who is now going to be the head coach of the Charlotte Hornets, a well -respected assistant for a number of years in the NBA, a guy who had opportunities and got interviews to be a head coach in the past.
Like that is a really, really good coaching staff. And it’s not just the head coach. It’s not just Joe Missoula. It’s the other guys. some of them are responsible for offense, right? Some of them are responsible for substitution pattern. Some of them are responsible for defense. and then you look at Dallas, she’s, you can meet Jason kid is the head coach, but they’ve got Sean Sweeney, a guy who, you know, has gotten interviews recently, a guy who.
is looked at as one of those up and coming assistant coaches. They also have Alex Jensen. They brought him from Utah. He’s been a head coach at the national team level. He was a head coach of the Cleveland charge their first ever year in the G league. He was Quinn Snyder’s essential right hand man in Utah for a number of years. He’s a guy who is partially responsible for the development of Daniel Gafford and the development of Derek Lively.
And he did the same thing for Rudy Gobert in Utah. So like that kind of staff with, you know, talented guys, up and coming guys, respected guys, that matters. That matters greatly. So if the Cavs potentially go offensive minded with their head coach, then maybe they want a defensive minded lead assistant.
Chris Fedor (20:11.086)
for whoever it may be so that one guy can run the offense, one guy can run the defense, however they want to set it up. It’s not just about the head coaching hires, it’s about the entire staff that they can build out. And when the Cavs have these conversations and these interviews with all of these different candidates, one of the questions is always, okay, like if you got this job, who are you looking at potentially to bring on board for your staff? Are there some guys here in Cleveland that you want to keep on the staff?
All of those kinds of things are being discussed during this process. And I get the sense that Dan Gilbert is one of the owners that is always going to value a quality staff and a quality lead assistant. And he’s going to be willing to pay in a way that not every organization is going to.
Ethan Sands (21:04.664)
And two of the things that you mentioned that stood out to me, Chris, is you said that there might be an opportunity for an offensive and a defensive minded coach. And I think that’s really a hundred percent true. And I also think that both coaches need to have that player development mindset because for this Cavs team, we both know that if there is Garland sticks around, he’s the guy that needs to be developed and might need multiple different voices because he can develop on the offensive end and he can develop on a defensive end.
Chris Fedor (21:23.214)
Hmm.
Ethan Sands (21:34.264)
Then you think about Evan Mobley, maybe he shifts towards more of the offensive minded coach and player development to think and get his thoughts on everything that’s going on because we already know how good he is as a defensive player. And then you think about Max Struce and all of these guys that have different areas that can go. And I really like the idea of having two coaches, like an assistant that’s an offensive minded or defensive minded or a head coach that’s offensive and defensive and the other being the assistant, like.
Chris Fedor (21:47.598
Mm -hmm.
Ethan Sands (22:02.968
having two guys that you can look at and be like, okay, well, if you’re gonna go this way, then I’m gonna get you to be and pay more attention to what he’s saying rather than trying to lean more on this. And I think that’s really important. The other thing that’s a little token that I wanted to throw in there, cause you did mention the Cleveland charge and I do know that we cover them too. And I wanna make sure we give them some love. But the Cleveland charge are moving again, Chris.
This is the third time in four years and the team has that the team has changed its home venue. They’re moving to the public auditorium, the Cleveland public auditorium. And it, I mean, this is because of the demolition of their home, of their old home. And they signed a new contract that’s scheduled for six years, starting with the 2024, 2025 season. So this is happening real, real quickly. And it’s something that,